“Some companies hire designers for marketing reasons” – Konstantin Grcic

Movie: in our second video interview with Konstantin Grcic in Milan, the industrial designer discusses the upsides and downsides of designing collections for multiple brands, rather than building relationships with a select few. 

"Some furniture companies hire designers for marketing reasons" - Konstantin Grcic
Konstantin Grcic

“I think the business model of design studios working for several companies, and companies working with many different designers, is quite unique [compared to other industries],” says Grcic, who unveiled new products for brands including Emeco, Flos, Magis and Mattiazzi in Milan this year.

"Some furniture companies hire designers for marketing reasons" - Konstantin Grcic
Medici collection by Konstantin Grcic for Mattiazzi

“It has its advantages; it creates dynamism,which I think is positive. I’ve seen the negative side of it as well; because of the dynamics things change and a company that was great to work with for five years suddenly becomes less interesting.”

"Some furniture companies hire designers for marketing reasons" - Konstantin Grcic
Medici collection by Konstantin Grcic for Mattiazzi

Grcic concedes that he would prefer to work with fewer companies and build long-term relationships with them.

“To be honest, I prefer working for only a very few companies and having a very steady relationship,” he says. “That’s how it was in the old days, especially in Italy. The great masters each had a few companies that they worked for, almost for a lifetime, and that’s what produced the really great work.”

"Some furniture companies hire designers for marketing reasons" - Konstantin Grcic
Traffic collection by Konstantin Grcic for Magis

However, Grcic says that is still possible to work with a company on a short-term basis and produce good work.

“I think some companies, for sure, hire designers for marketing reasons, for having their names in the catalogue,” he says. “But there are other companies – and those are the interesting companies – that are looking for designers as partners for realising certain projects.”

"Some furniture companies hire designers for marketing reasons" - Konstantin Grcic
Traffic collection by Konstantin Grcic for Magis

He continues: “It’s interesting that a company like Magis, for example, somehow succeeds in bringing together very different designers on very different projects. If it works, it’s actually quite fascinating. It creates an interesting tension and energy.”

"Some furniture companies hire designers for marketing reasons" - Konstantin Grcic
Parrish chair by Konstantin Grcic for Emeco

Similarly, Grcic says that a long-standing relationship with a company doesn’t guarantee good design.

“There are companies that only work with very few designers and it can show that the continuity creates better work,” he says. “But it can also end in repetition and a kind of dead-end street.”

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OK lamp by Konstantin Grcic for Flos

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“I felt we should change the way Emeco makes chairs” – Konstantin Grcic

Movie: Designer Konstantin Grcic tells Dezeen that American furniture company Emeco had to industrialise its production methods to produce his new Parrish chair in this video interview filmed in Milan. 

"I felt we should change the way Emeco make chairs" - Konstantin Grcic
Konstantin Grcic

Grcic originally designed the Parrish chair as part of a range of furniture for Herzog & de Meuron’s barn-like Parrish Art Museum on Long Island, completed in 2012.

The chair was launched by American furniture company Emeco as a commercial product at Milan earlier this year.

"I felt we should change the way Emeco make chairs" - Konstantin Grcic
Parrish chairs and tables at the Parrish Art Museum

In the movie, Grcic explains that he approached Emeco to produce the chair because of its experience of working in aluminium, most famously with the iconic Navy Chair, which Emeco has produced since 1944.

"I felt we should change the way Emeco make chairs" - Konstantin Grcic
Emeco’s Navy Chair

“I felt we needed a company to support the development of the project,” says Grcic.

“Emeco stands for chairs in aluminium and aluminium was the perfect material for the chair that we had in mind because the [Parrish Art Museum] is very open [to the elements].”

"I felt we should change the way Emeco make chairs" - Konstantin Grcic
Parrish chairs at the Parrish Art Museum

Unlike the Navy Chair, in which each piece is welded together by hand, the legs, armrests and backrest of the Parrish chair are all locked together by a single joint under the seat.

"I felt we should change the way Emeco make chairs" - Konstantin Grcic

“Everything is mechanically joined to a central core, a piece of die-cast aluminium, which is really the heart of the chair,” Grcic explains.

“So we have one moulded piece that solves all of the structure of the chair and the seat is exchangeable. You can have an upholstered seat, a plastic seat or a wooden seat.”

"I felt we should change the way Emeco make chairs" - Konstantin Grcic

Grcic says that he deliberately wanted to move Emeco away from the time-intensive production methods involved in producing the Navy Chair.

“I felt we should actually change the way [Emeco] makes chairs,” he says. “Industrialise it, simplify it, eliminate all the dirty work, all the hand labour. That’s what really informed the concept of the chair.”

"I felt we should change the way Emeco make chairs" - Konstantin Grcic

He concludes: “Emeco will always produce the Navy Chair in the way they produce it, but I think now we’ve established another form of production inside their company.”

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“Working during an economic crisis is quite exciting” – Job Smeets

Movie: in our second video interview with Job Smeets of Studio Job, the artist discusses the recent economic crisis but claims that, unlike many in the “design art” world, his studio’s work has not been negatively affected by it.

"Working during an economic crisis is quite exciting" - Job Smeets
Job Smeets, founder of Studio Job

“I sometimes talk with young designers who are starting their careers; I would not like to be in their shoes,”says Smeets, who was speaking at Moooi’s Unexpected Welcome exhibition in Milan.

“Having said that, when I started Studio Job, I didn’t care a thing about the economy. I was involved in trying to make a statement in design or art.”

He continues: “But being in a crisis when you’re already ten years old is quite exciting. We had the big advantage of not having to slow down our business. There is still a lot of interest in our pieces.”

"Working during an economic crisis is quite exciting" - Job Smeets

Studio Job has been at the forefront of the “design art” world, where limited edition and one-off design pieces are sold to collectors as pieces of art, for over ten years. Smeets says that the marketplace has become much less crowded since the crisis.

“A lot of our colleagues in the art or design business have disappeared,” he explains. “They came up very quickly because they saw there was a market and they went away very quickly because they saw there wasn’t a market anymore. But Studio Job already had a body of work by then.”

"Working during an economic crisis is quite exciting" - Job Smeets

Being a small company with a worldwide reputation helped Studio Job steer through the crisis and take advantage of emerging markets in the east, Smeets claims.

“The market changed because, all of a sudden, the USA wasn’t the biggest market anymore. But we are a very small ship; we are lean and mean. A completely new market appeared in the Middle East, in Asian countries and in Russia.”

He concludes: “I don’t think our work changed [because of the economy], so that’s good.”

"Working during an economic crisis is quite exciting" - Job Smeets

All the designs featured in the movie are by Studio Job. Photography by R. Kot, D. Stier, L. Blonk, A. Blommers / N. Schumm, A. Meewis, Moooi, Lensvelt.

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“When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto” – Job Smeets

Studio Job founder Job Smeets looks back over his career to date and explains why sculpture is so important to his studio’s work in this movie Dezeen filmed at Moooi’s Unexpected Welcome exhibition in Milan. 

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Job Smeets, founder of Studio Job

“When we started [Studio Job], it was very simple: we wanted creative freedom,” Smeets says.

“The only way to reach creative freedom was to design sculptures, because when you do a sculpture, each sculpture can be a unique piece. That’s perfect. Not for economical reasons, but it’s perfect for creation because every time you can start to design a new piece.”

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Excavator by Studio Job

Smeets continues: “We started to sculpt pieces and cast them in bronze. As with plastic, with bronze you can make any shape you like. Plastic is for the industry and bronze is for the art world, but I thought: ‘let’s turn that issue into something beautiful and introduce sculpture into design’.”

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Robber Baron cupboard by Studio Job

Studio Job’s work straddles both the art and design worlds, but Smeets says he does not distinguish between the two.

“I really don’t care,” he says. “When you are trying to separate art from design, you are creating a ghetto, which is always a bad thing. Let’s not have borders in creation.”

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Paper furniture by Studio Job for Moooi

Studio Job has designed collections for Moooi since its range of paper furniture launched in 2007.

“The first thing you learn in Kindergarten is to work with paper,” Smeets says of the collection. “So it’s a very authentic approach.”

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Gothic Chair by Studio Job for Moooi

Subsequent collections include a gothic chair made from plastic and a series of hand-painted furniture inspired by antique German designs, while Studio Job’s latest pieces for Moooi’s Unexpected Welcome collection include lamps shaped like upturned buckets.

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Altdeutsche Cabinet by Studio Job for Moooi

“Now we’re sitting here in a total design environment, we have 35 or 40 products we did for Moooi on show here,” Smeets says. “I’m a happy artist and a happy designer.”

However, Smeets believes that the influence of sculpture is still apparent in these industrial pieces.

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Bucket lamp by Studio Job for Moooi

“In a way, the Moooi pieces are becoming a little bit more sculptural,” he says. “If you look at the bucket lamp series, for instance, it’s a mixture of wood, of paper, of brass. It’s quite interesting.”

He continues. “[Today], we are allowed to do s*** like that. Five years ago, if I came up with a bucket upside down on a wooden pedestal they would say, ‘do it on your own, don’t do it here’.”

“I think that has to do with trust. We are getting old and people tend to trust you when you’re over forty, no?”

"When you try to separate art and design you create a ghetto" - Job Smeets
Robber Baron coffee table by Studio Job

All the designs featured in the movie are by Studio Job. Photography by J.B. Mondino, R. Kot, K. Vrancken, A. Meewis, Groninger Museum, Moooi, Z33.

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The home of the future will “know where you are” – Yves Behar

Dezeen and MINI World Tour: San Francisco designer Yves Behar, who recently launched a keyless lock controlled by a smartphone, discusses his vision for how technology can be successfully integrated into the home in this movie filmed in Milan. 

The home of the future will "know where you are" - Yves Behar
August Smart Lock by Yves Behar

Speaking at our Dezeen and MINI World Tour Studio at the MINI Paceman Garage during Milan design week, Behar says that design for the home has been slow to embrace technology.

“What we see here [in Milan] from the Italian manufacturers is very safe,” he explains. “On the other hand, you have a world of technology that’s very dynamic. What I’m missing is for those two worlds to come together more.”

“It’s not about putting a speaker in a chair, or putting a TV in a bed. That’s not how technology and the home intersect. For me, it’s about sensors, about the home knowing where you are.”

The home of the future will "know where you are" - Yves Behar
August Smart Lock

In May this year, shortly after we filmed this interview, Behar launched a new company and product called August Smart Lock, which replaces physical keys with a smartphone app and opens automatically as you approach the door.

“Cars have been like this for years,” Behar says in the movie. “Keyless entry in a car is something that we’re used to. Somehow, the home has been very resistant to this. Some of it has to do with security, but today we know that technology, when things are invisible, is actually safer than physical artefacts.”

The home of the future will "know where you are" - Yves Behar
Jawbone Up

Looking to the future, Behar believes that wearable technologies, such as the Up wristband he designed for San Fransisco company Jawbone, provide an exciting opportunity for integrating technology into the home.

“The next step for me with the Up is how it talks with the rest of the home,” he says. “It’s an object that can tell the home where I am and what I’m doing. Am I tired from a long day so the lighting should be really mellow and calm, or do I need to be energised so the ambience is going to be rocking? Am I about to get home, so maybe the temperature should go up?”

He concludes: “There are all kinds of new intuitive ways that these technologies that we’re wearing can interface with the technologies in our home. For reasons of efficiency, but also for having a home that responds to you in ways that are going to be magical.”

The home of the future will "know where you are" - Yves Behar
Yves Behar

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“I am no longer a lighting designer, I am a fashion designer” – Tom Dixon

In our second movie with Tom Dixon filmed earlier this year in Milan, the British designer discusses his foray into fashion design and says that his capsule collection for sports brand Adidas is based on the idea of creating a personal survival kit for Milan design week.

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST
Tom Dixon

“I’m doing a collaboration with Adidas,” says Dixon in the movie. “So I am now no longer a lighting designer, I am a fashion designer, okay?”

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST

“That’s been a fascinating experience of diving into a much bigger infrastructure and going in there with a very naive view but also a very different view on sportswear.”

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST

He adds: “It’s been a riot working in this completely new playground of a different typology of goods, in which I can use some of the same ideas but in a completely new world.”

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST

Dixon’s collection, which was on display amongst the steam trains at Milan’s Museum of Science and Technology as part of MOST, includes underwear, trousers, shirts, shoes and waterproof jackets that fold easily and can be packed efficiently. Dixon also designed a coat that doubles up as a sleeping bag.

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST

“Adidas started off with a bag and then I thought, I’m not just going to do a bag, I’m going to fill that bag with everything that I need for Milan,” Dixon explains.

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST

“So I started thinking about my personal problems. I always forget to pack the right number of pants or socks, or I forget that there’s going to be a volcano and I’ll get trapped in Milan and so I’ll need a sleeping bag [a reference to the 2010 volcanic eruption in Iceland, which suspended air travel for weeks].”

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST

He concludes: “All of those adventures I had in Milan went into that collection. It’s as much as I can fit into a carry-on bag on a low-cost airline, with everything that I need for a week away.”

Tom Dixon for Adidas at MOST

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“Young designers have given up waiting to be spotted by a big producer” – Tom Dixon

British designer Tom Dixon discusses how the digitalisation of manufacturing processes is enabling young designers to take production into their own hands in this movie Dezeen filmed at MOST in Milan.

"The whole equation has completely changed" - Tom Dixon
Milan’s Museum of Science and Technology

Set against a backdrop of planes, trains and submarines, Dixon has hosted his MOST show at the Museum of Science and Technology during Milan design week for the last two years.

“What you’ll see around the museum is people just getting on and producing their own things,” Dixon says of this year’s exhibition.

"The whole equation has completely changed" - Tom Dixon
Trumpf punch press at MOST 2012

“Last year we used a big punch press with a German company called Trumpf to make something here in the museum,” Dixon says. “The net result of that are some big lamps that we’re now going to be making in New York for a client and the one that we’re showing here was made in London.”

Called Punch Ball, the lamps can be customised and ordered via Tom Dixon Bespoke and are produced to order locally.

"The whole equation has completely changed" - Tom Dixon
Punch Ball pendant lamp by Tom Dixon

“We’re deconstructing the manufacturing process,” Dixon claims. “I think for a long time people thought all goods were going to be produced a long way away in low-cost labour countries and shipped in huge quantities to the rich west, but that whole equation has completely changed.”

"The whole equation has completely changed" - Tom Dixon
Punch Ball pendant lamp by Tom Dixon

Dixon says that now smaller companies are also able to produce their own products due to advances in digital fabrication technologies.

“The product world has been quite slow to be part of the digital revolution, but obviously people are getting more and more able to bypass the normal structures for producing and selling their work,” he says.

“I think a couple of years back, people would have been waiting for a big producer to spot their prototypes and put them into production. People have given up hope of that happening, but of course with the new technologies you’re able to produce the stuff yourself digitally, do the logistics through various structures and then get direct to the global consumer.”

"The whole equation has completely changed" - Tom Dixon
Fab.com stand at MOST 2013

Dixon cites online retailer Fab.com, which had a stand at this year’s MOST, as an example of how designers today are able to sell their products all over the world, without having to rely on the infrastructure of a large manufacturer or distributer.

“People are being approached by [Fab.com] to sell their things online to an audience of something like 13 million internationally, which means that a young, untested designer can suddenly have access to this vast marketplace,” he says.

“Designers from all over the world are making all over the world and selling all over the world, which is a significant move from what Milan used to be.”

"The whole equation has completely changed" - Tom Dixon
Tom Dixon

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“We need to redesign our thinking with LED lamps” – Marcel Wanders

Dutch designer Marcel Wanders discusses how he overcame the challenges of using LED technology in his new lamp for Moooi and defends the high cost of design products in this movie Dezeen filmed in Milan

"With LED lamps we need to redesign our thinking" - Marcel Wanders
Flattering by Marcel Wanders at Moooi’s Unexpected Welcome exhibition Milan

Wanders‘ new lamp for Moooi is called Flattering and features an ornate copper-coloured frame that supports 32 LED lights enclosed by tiny individual transparent lamp shades. It was on show as part of Moooi’s Unexpected Welcome exhibition in Milan.

"With LED lamps we need to redesign our thinking" - Marcel Wanders

“With LEDs we need to redesign our thinking about what to do,” says Wanders of the challenges of working with the technology.

“You have these little lights, but each of them is very sharp. If you want enough light in an LED lamp you have to put them together and [if] you have a lot it [will] blind you completely. One of the solutions is to put these little lights further away from each other.”

"With LED lamps we need to redesign our thinking" - Marcel Wanders

Normally, spreading apart so many individual LEDs would result in a lot of messy wiring to power them all. However, Wanders explains that Moooi has developed its own proprietary technology called Electrosandwich, which allows the LEDs to be powered directly through layers of conductive material within the frame.

“Here we have developed a patented technology which makes it possible for us to put lights anywhere we want without putting special cables and fittings,” he says.

"With LED lamps we need to redesign our thinking" - Marcel Wanders

Wanders then goes on to defend the high cost of products that design companies like Moooi produce.

“If Moooi makes a design, the company doesn’t only make this object in a really good way, with the right materials, with the right techniques and with the right perfections,” he says.”It also did all of the development. To get there is really difficult.”

"With LED lamps we need to redesign our thinking" - Marcel Wanders

“You will always find that the companies who copy something sell only the things that sell really well,” he continues. “A company that does design has to also find a way to make it’s margins for all the other things that fail, which is part of design.”

Wanders concludes: “Ultimately, an original design product will have a cost higher than its copy.”

"With LED lamps we need to redesign our thinking" - Marcel Wanders

Wanders also believes that owning an original product rather than a copy is important.

“If you want an authentic life, if you want to be an authentic being then you want to connect with with your surroundings,’ he says.

“My grandfather used to say ‘show me your friends and I’ll tell you who you are.’ Show me your surroundings and I’ll tell you who you are.”

"With LED lamps we need to redesign our thinking" - Marcel Wanders

We also filmed interviews with Wanders about Moooi’s Unexpected Welcome exhibition in Milan, as well as about his new Dressed watch for Alessi.

Wanders also features in this movie about the phenomenon of copying in design.

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“I’m sure we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year” – Marcel Wanders

Dutch designer and Moooi art director Marcel Wanders explains why the design brand wanted to make a big impact at Milan this year in this movie filmed at Moooi’s Unexpected Welcome exhibition

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

The Moooi show featured pieces from its Unexpected Welcome collection arranged in small room layouts, with giant portraits by Dutch photographer Erwin Olaf dividing the large warehouse space.

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

“I am 100% sure that we are by far the most expensive exhibition in this Milano fair,” Wanders says in the movie. “We might hopefully be the most impressive one.”

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

“For Moooi, this is the right moment to do something,” he continues. “This year we felt we were really ready to do more development.”

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

“We wanted to show that besides making iconic objects, we are ready to do spaces, to make things work together. To not only make objects, but homes.”

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

Wanders believes that the quickly developing economies in the east provide a new set of challenges and opportunities for companies like Moooi.

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

“The west has been educated in its own kind of rational way for a hundred years,” he says. “We arrive now to clients all over the world. These people don’t have this dogmatic education. You’re not going to sell them a grey sofa because you tell them it’s a great grey sofa.”

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

Wanders continues: “You have to give real value, give them something that they think is really vital to them, something valuable to them, something they really want to have in their hearts. And I think it’s a great opportunity for design.”

"I am certain that we had the most expensive exhibition at Milan this year"

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“It’s easy for designers today to produce and sell their own work”

Dezeen and MINI World Tour: in our penultimate movie recorded at the MINI Paceman Garage in Milan, New York designer Stephen Burks discusses the importance of having a design identity and journalist Henrietta Thompson explains why designers are starting to expand into retail.

"It's easy for designers today to produce and sell their own work"
Stephen Burks

Stephen Burks of Readymade Projects was one of the guest speakers at the series of workshops that were hosted in the MINI Paceman Garage during Milan design week.

"It's easy for designers today to produce and sell their own work"
Stephen Burks giving his talk

“I really impressed upon the students that it was important to understand their own identity before choosing manufacturers to work with, before running off and making something,” he says of his talk. “I think now they have a better sense of what that identity can be.”

"It's easy for designers today to produce and sell their own work"
Henrietta Thompson

Henrietta Thompson, editor-at-large at Wallpaper magazine, believes that changes in manufacturing are enabling more and more designers to produce and sell their own products.

“There’s certainly a shift happening in the way that designers are taking much more control over exhibiting their own work and also selling their own work,” she says. “So you’ve actually got a new dynamic opening up and a lot of the galleries and the shows that you go to are actually retail environments as well.”

"It's easy for designers today to produce and sell their own work"
Booo lighting store at Spazio Rossana Orlandi, Milan

“You have a lot more designer-makers, so they’re making things in limited editions, which they’re then able to sell,” she adds.

“Because of all these new technologies coming in, which enable the way things are made to change dramatically, things can be made much cheaper. You’ve got 3D printing, which is completely changing the landscape as well. [A designer] can sell things online and actually distribute [their own work] fairly easily now.”

"It's easy for designers today to produce and sell their own work"
Tom Dixon‘s shop at MOST in Milan

It’s not just designers that are moving into retail, Thompson suggests. “Magazines are getting into retail, exhibitions are getting into retail,” she says.

“It doesn’t necessarily have to be as cut-and-dry as ‘I’m a producer’, ‘I’m a designer’, ‘I’m a retailer’, ‘I’m a magazine’. Now everybody is doing all of those things all together.”

"It's easy for designers today to produce and sell their own work"
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