Unpaid work is not “acceptable on any level” says Dick Powell

Dick Powell

News: D&AD chairman Dick Powell has moved to defuse the controversy over a speech advising young people to “work for nothing” in order to get a job in the creative industries. In a letter to Dezeen, Powell states that “there are no circumstances where working unpaid in any capacity is acceptable on any level” and adds: “I apologise to your readers who may wrongly have a different impression”.

Yesterday’s article provoked a furious backlash from Dezeen readers, who posted over 100 comments and expressed their anger on social media.

“I’m grateful to Dezeen for this opportunity to clarify a number of points which have understandably caused a great deal of concern and anger,” Powell writes in the letter, which we publish in full at the bottom of this story. “It was certainly not my to intention to infer working for free… I should have made it clear that I was referring to student internships and NOT graduates.”

Seymourpowell took to Twitter yesterday to claim Dezeen had misrepresented Powell. “This article is a total misrepresentation of Dick Powell’s speech the article refers to,” the company tweeted.

Powell, who is also co-founder and CEO of leading industrial design studio Seymourpowell, gave a speech at the opening of graduate show New Designers Part Two earlier this month in which he said: “Offer anything, do anything, call in every contact you have, get on LinkedIn and let it take you everywhere, work for nothing, make tea, carry bags, and learn, learn, learn.”

Unpaid internships or placements contravene D&AD guidelines. In the design charity’s list of ten commandments for placements, it states: “Pay them and treat them right, and expect the same in return. We mean at least minimum wage.”

Here is the letter from Powell:


I was shocked and rather saddened to read your article yesterday headlined “Graduates should ‘work for nothing’ says D&AD Chairman” in relation to my recent speech at the opening of New Designers Part Two on 3 July.

Your article does not reflect my views, nor those of D&AD and I’d like to put the record straight, so I’m grateful to Dezeen for this opportunity to clarify a number of points which have understandably caused a great deal of concern and anger.

Sadly, these days, it is harder than ever for graduates to find work; the jobs don’t come to them – many don’t realise that their graduation is the start of a lengthy, often soul destroying process that is as much work as work itself.  The message of my five minute speech [see transcript here] was intended to fire up and inspire them to that process . . . a process during which the learning doesn’t stop. And the hardest part of that process is to stand out from the crowd and get yourself in front of the right people.

It was certainly not my to intention to infer working for free, more an attempt to impress upon them that they should stop at nothing to ‘crack open the door’ (buried among a longer list of wilder ideas to emphasise the message). As I wrote these words, and afterwards in conversation with Dezeen, I should have made it clear that I was referring to student internships and NOT graduates.

The question of internships is, rightly, a matter of hot debate. To my mind, a student internship is part of a student’s education and, just as important, it’s one of the best ways to get yourself in front of the right people and crack open the door to a future job (several of SP’s younger designers first came to us as student interns). Internships are a quid pro quo arrangement – agencies get to meet and experience talent, and maybe short circuit the employment process, while students build valuable experience, continue to learn and can showcase their talent . . .  but being part of a student’s education is no excuse for not paying interns. Indeed, at Seymourpowell we pay all our student interns. But unconscionably, not every agency or design company concurs with this moral position.

In my view, and in D&AD’s view, there are no circumstances where working unpaid in any capacity  is acceptable on any level! I apologise to your readers who may wrongly have a different impression as a result of your article.

Thank you for the opportunity to make this clear.

Dick Powell, Seymourpowell

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Graduates should “work for nothing” says D&AD chairman

D&AD chairman Dick Powell

News: young people wanting to start a career in design should offer to work for free, according to Dick Powell, chairman of design charity D&AD.

“Offer anything, do anything,” said Powell. “Work for nothing, make tea, carry bags, and learn, learn, learn.”

Powell, who is also co-founder and CEO of leading industrial design studio Seymourpowell, made the comments in a speech to graduates at the New Designers exhibition in London earlier this month.

“Your goal may be to get a job, but your first task is to crack open the door,” he told the audience attending the preview of New Designers Part 2. “And you should stop at nothing to achieve that. Be prepared to do anything, anything at all to get into a business.”

He continued: “Offer anything, do anything, call in every contact you have, get on LinkedIn and let it take you everywhere, work for nothing, make tea, carry bags, and learn, learn, learn.”

Speaking to Dezeen after his speech, Powell said that doing an unpaid internship is “the easiest way to get a job”.

“You’ve got to invest [in yourself],” he said. “It depends on the industry. In advertising it’s normal – you don’t get paid. Other businesses will pay for lunch, travel, that kind of thing.”

Seymourpowell pays its interns, he said, but felt that the company would be able to help more young designers if it offered unpaid internships instead. “We always try to pay a basic wage but it would clearly be better for them if we took on six that are unpaid than two that are paid, but we choose to pay them.”

Unpaid internships in the creative industries have caused controversy this year, with the RIBA calling for students to report companies offering unpaid architecture internships and Tokyo architect Sou Fujimoto defending the Japanese “open desk” practice, whereby foreign staff work for nothing to gain experience.

Fujimoto provoked a furious backlash when he told Dezeen that unpaid internships are “a nice opportunity” for both employers and interns.

D&AD is a British charity working to promote and inspire best practice in design and advertising.

The organisation have launched a guide to getting into the industry, called The Creative Notebook. “People wanting to get internships should get a copy of that,” said Powell. “It’s full of advice on how to get internships.” The guide is free for D&AD student and graduate members.

Photograph by James Champion.

Here’s the full speech Dick Powell gave at New Designers:


When I graduated from the RCA, I had an unshakable, cast iron, rock-solid self-belief that I could make a difference; that I could make things better. Better for People. Better for Business. And Better too for the World. That I could make things Better by Design.

And while much has changed since, I still have that rock-solid self-belief … making things Better by Design remains my credo, my rallying cry, my philosophy.

That rock-solid self-belief was born from a combination of arrogance, ambition, passion and naivety, but there was something else too. Something which I believe, irrespective of the field of creative endeavour or the design discipline, characterises outstanding creativity and innovation. I had no fear of failure… because I had nothing to lose – no mortgage, no big costs, no family to support and, unlike most of you, no big debts. I could not have been any poorer.

And today, all of you are at the same point in your life – graduating from education and out into the real world of our creative industries, with little to lose and the prospect of a career in the Creative Industries, which are hugely important to the UK, financially, practically and culturally.

So here are 6 tips for breaking into those industries:

1. Design is fabulously rewarding. We do it because we love it. We do it because we can make a difference. And the chance to work at something you love is so much more important than just working for money. If you are motivated by the need to make money, you’re in the wrong business! If you are talented, ambitious and prepared to work hard, to go beyond expectations, you will have a rewarding and satisfying career – and money will follow.

2. Never stop learning! Your courses have been very focused around a single discipline, but our industries need designers with bandwidth: a hunger for a wide view of the world and a deep understanding of people, markets, business and technologies from which they can build a point of view. Today, you’re probably thinking you’re done with education! Wrong! For those of you who will ultimately succeed, the learning starts today!

3. Your goal may be to get a job, but your first task is to crack open the door… and you should stop at nothing to achieve that . Be prepared to do anything, anything at all to get into a business. Offer anything, do anything, call in every contact you have, get on LinkedIn and let it take you everywhere, work for nothing, make tea, carry bags and learn, learn, learn.

4. Be really really good at one thing. Be a star at one thing. Be an expert at one thing. Your courses have had to focus on equipping you as best they can to be a great all rounder – research, creativity, execution, trends, markets, and equipped with extensive knowledge of design and its practise. But that makes you all more the same than different, so it’s hard to stand out. But every business needs dedicated skills of different kinds – skills with tools, like Alias or Pro-Engineer, or skills at drawing, research, film editing, animating, budgeting, selling or whatever. Being a star at one thing can get you in, maybe not in the role you want, but at least you will be in and learning – after that, it’s up to you.

5. Scale your ambition. Of course, you’d like to work for Apple – we all would!. Don’t abandon that ambition. Just be prepared to spend time building experience and making yourself useful in a thousand ways to small companies of any kind or discipline. Which brings me around to where I started…

6. Fear of failure. In business, as in life, failure is part of learning. Every failure, every rejection letter is a process of learning and improving. And the best way to scrape yourself off the floor and get your head into the right place is to never stop designing. The golfer, Gary Player, was accosted by a journalist having just won a tournament. The journalist observed that he had been a bit lucky with one or two shots. Player responded “You know what? The more I practice, the luckier I seem to get!”. The more you use your skills, the better you become. The graduate who is out of college a year and is still hawking round the same college portfolio is doomed … For every opening you have, ahead of every interview, ahead of every letter you write or phone call you make – discipline yourself to use every second to fill your portfolio with fresh thinking, and new ideas which are tightly focused and highly relevant to the person or business you want to see. Find out what they do and do some of that. That way, you’ll pique their interest and you’ll develop the informed point of view they want to hear.

And finally, this week at New Designers is a major opportunity to make those first valuable contacts and build a network which might one day lead to a job. That’s what all this is about. Today, you join that network, an embryonic designer with a future. Welcome to our world!

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